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Top Prospect Rankings: Catchers

Top Prospect Rankings: Catchers

After three days of research and reading, I’ve gotten to the point where I can post a list of the top catching prospects I believe are in the game today. My first draft contained seventy-four names, from top of the food chain players like Devin Mesoraco, to the very bottom, eighteen year old Venezuelan free agent signee with the Orioles, Gabriel Lino.
 
The first cut found the list reduced to thirty-nine names, with the final cut resulting in the final tally of twenty-four players.
 
My thought process when ranking prospects (and in scouting) has always been to look at the tools and skills a player has presently, and determine if they fit into the position, especially as he progresses. 
 
For a catcher, obviously fielding ability is the number one tool a player has to have. Being able to block balls in the dirt, to not be afraid to call any pitch in any situation, to be agile and quick enough to field bunts and to hang in on plays at the plate. Next is throwing ability, as it ties into fielding. How quickly is his transition from catching to throwing? If his arm isn’t plus, how is the release? Are his throws “true” to the bag?
 
For me, catchers should have some pop in their bats, seeing as most of them are below average runners. You won’t see too many backstops legging out too many infield hits during the course of a season, so the ability to plant the ball in the gap or even the seats is a plus and keeps defenses honest, especially for a National League organization.
 
For me, a big bat catcher with questionable defensive skills will rank lower than a defense first guy with lesser offensive ability. 
 
I do look at organizational strength, although I don’t buy the “closest to the majors” theory. Yasmani Grandal is closer to the majors in San Diego than he was in Cincinnati, but he’s still the same player. Likewise with San Francisco, three of their top prospects are catchers, yet with Buster Posey firmly entrenched in the starting role in the major leagues, somebody will need to change positions or even look for opportunities with another organization when the time comes. 
 
The list:
 
2) Travis d’Arnaud, Blue Jays
3) Yasmani Grandal, Padres
4) Blake Swihart, Red Sox
5) Wilin Rosario, Rockies
6) Jesus Montero, Mariners
7) Derek Norris, Athletics
8) Austin Hedges, Padres
9) Sebastian Valle, Phillies
10) Tommy Joseph, Giants
11) Ryan Lavarnway, Red Sox
13) Tim Federowicz, Dodgers
14) Gary Sanchez, Yankees
15) Andrew Susac, Giants
16) Austin Romine, Yankees
17) Jake Realmuto, Marlins
18) A.J. Jimenez, Blue Jays
19) Jorge Alfaro, Rangers
20) Max Stassi, Athletics
21) Kyle Skipworth, Marlins
22) Chris Herrmann, Twins
23) Gabriel Lino, Orioles
24) Micah Gibbs, Cubs
 
So, there you have it. As the site progresses I plan on adding as many bio pages to the links as time permits, but for now feel free to agree or disagree by commenting below or via email. Again, rankings like this are subjective and opinion based and should not be taken literally. 
 
Thanks for reading

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  1. Raul says:

    Skipworth is really struggling this year in AA…even for a catcher’s bat. It’s his 2nd round in AA and he’s gonna have to pick things up if he wants to see a promotion. Three years at AA would not be good at all. To your credit, it’s not like you had Skipworth atop the list.

    The relatively high rankings of Ryan Lavarnway and Blake Swihart are interesting. Swihart is just 20, so I see the potential upside. But Lavarnway should be up already. My guess is that part of the reason he isn’t in Boston is because Saltalamacchia is off to a pretty good offensive start and because Lavarnway is struggling from a power perspective in AAA right now…after an impressive 60-game stretch there last year. I guess the Red Sox don’t want him riding the bench 5 days a week.

    Austin Romine is probably destined to be a career backup…probably in a John Flaherty/Chris Widger mold. Though they say his bat is improving. So maybe he could find a full-time job somewhere…it just won’t be in the Bronx.

    Wilin Rosario seems to be flying under the radar. I haven’t heard much from him this year, but he’s already got 20 games in at the Big League level and has 5 home runs. Needs to show a bit more plate discipline. Just 3 walks so far.

    I was going to note that Wil Myers was conspicuously absent on this list. I guess I had a brain fart and forgot he was moved to the outfield two years ago. Still, I suppose Salvador Perez could have gotten a mention…even if he’s out for the year.

    • Chuck says:

      The list isn’t a ranking per se, it’s just a list of the 24 guys I like best.

      I do like Swihart, though, how he fell to Boston is beyond me.

      I agree with you on Romine.

      I have what I believe is an abnormal affection for Skipworth. The few times I saw him in the AFL the last couple of years all he did was pound the ball.

      I don’t understand how he can go to Arizona and in 113 AB’s over two years post a respectable .274 average against some pretty good pitching, then go to Double A and not hit his weight?

      Perez lost his rookie status last year.

  2. Jim says:

    Lavarnway is still struggling defensively with 58′ breaking balls and other pitches in the dirt.

    I believe Swihart was committed to college and the Sox made an offer he couldn’t refuse

  3. Chuck says:

    Yeah, I seem to remember Swihart using the “don’t pick me, I’m going to college” ploy.

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Top Prospect Lists and Rankings Explained

Top Prospect Lists and Rankings Explained 

 
As I mentioned in an earlier post, what goes into defining a “top prospect” may be the most subjective thing a scout, writer or fan can do.
 
Top Prospect Ranking lists are everywhere now. From Baseball America and ESPN to hundreds of on-line “fan” writers, there are literally no shortages of opinion on just how and where to rank a Class A shortstop compared to a Triple A pitcher.
 
I’m not a fan of these lists in general, in part because most of them are just recreations of someone else’s work, with a few names changed around just enough to give the impression the work is original.
 
Well, now that I have my own minor league themed site, I’m throwing my hat in the ring and announcing my own list. 
 
Baseball America was the first outlet to make top prospect lists fashionable, publishing their first “Top 100″ in 1990.
 
(Who was their first “top prospect)?
 
Over the next couple of weeks I’ll be putting my own spin on things, starting with catchers. I believe it makes more sense to rank players by position then it does to put out a general list, because it really isn’t credible to list shortstops and pitchers together.
 
My criteria is pretty simple, I think. 
 
First, I consider position and organization, both seperately and as one. The “five tools” play differently at each position, having a Gold Glove caliber shortstop is far more important than in right field; conversely a strong arm is more important on the right fielder than it is on your first baseman. 
 
Organizationally, where a player ranks in the hierarchy of his position also matters. If you’re a first baseman in the Angels organization, for example, you may be playing more to open up the eyes of an other organization than your own, or even may be looking at a position change. Just ask Mark Trumbo about that. 
 
When I sit down and begin my research, I start with Baseball America’s Prospect Handbook and MiLB.com’s stat pages. 
 
By definition, a prospect is a professional player that has yet to exhaust his MLB rookie status. When considering roughly ninety percent of all signed players won’t make the major leagues, making the first cut is relatively easy. Once my initial ‘draft” is done, then I look at “tool” reports, which guys have the best arms, have the best power potential or the best slider. It’s like putting together a jigsaw puzzle, moving the tools around until they all fit. 
 
At least, that’s the plan. 
 
Baseball America’s first top prospect?
 
Atlanta pitcher Steve Avery. 

Comments

  1. Raul says:

    And Avery was on his way…but things just didn’t work out as planned.
    And they seldom do.

    Looking forward to the rankings.

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NYBD; The End of One Era, the Beginning of Another

The End of One Era for NYBD, the Beginning of Another

My day this past Sunday started out the same as pretty much every Sunday has for the past couple of years, get up early, make a pot of coffee, run to the grocery store and the post office and then back home. Usually my wife and daughter are still sleeping, so I turn on the laptop while I’m putting the groceries away and check email and the day’s MiLB.TV schedule.

I noticed almost right away an email from a friend who I get something from once every couple of weeks or so, so I bypassed it and went on checking other stuff and went back, and was pretty surprised at what I read from him.

After five years of blood, sweat, money and time, he was shutting down a website he had built from scratch into one of the more respected blogs in a market where there are more websites than cigarette butts on the sidewalk.

I’m talking about Mike Silva and NY Baseball Digest.

There’s one big, important point here that everyone needs to understand…Mike isn’t media. Whatever he knows is self-taught, through either the school of hard knocks or from not being afraid to knock on someone’s door. Mike excelled at something that stops most people before they get off the ground.

Even the most formally trained journalist has to pay his dues; respect from professional players, coaches, and front office personnel isn’t given just because you have a website or write for the Post. Not only did Mike gain that respect, he kept it by being true to his word and maintaining a trait which seems to be lost amongst today’s “media”, integrity.

We first met in late 2006 when both were writing for a start up site called Dugout Central, which was founded and operated by former Yankees third baseman Mike Pagliarulo. Mike left shortly thereafter to start his own site, and through the subsequent years we had stayed in touch, either through my writing contributions to his site or as a guest on NYBD’s sister radio show. As a transplanted native of the Tri-State area living in the Southwest and a fan of the local teams, it was a mutual win for both of us as I kept up with the happenings of what was going on in the world of New York sports, outside of what ESPN’s spin city provided.

Mike, by birth I guess, is a Mets’ fan, and while his site touched on the Yankees and the other sports teams in New York and even the local talk show scene, it was the trust that he built with the Mets’ organization that led Mike to being respected enough to receive credentials and invitations to events which left some big-name “mainstream” media outlets outside on the sidewalk.

Finding a start-up site which has reached this level of respect in such a short period of time is like finding quality acting on “Jersey Shore”. Major League Baseball doesn’t arbitrarily hand out media credentials, I can tell you from my own personal experiences that your first born child and being written into your will isn’t good enough, it’s a sometimes never ending process for the vast majority.

This isn’t the end, however, as Mike is moving on to a new venture called Instream Sports, where he will be a featured writer and will maintain the radio  show. The launch for his writing career will be effective June first, while you can still listen t his weekly Sunday radio shows on blogtalk radio.

For those who know Mike, he will be posting occasional updates on mikesilvamedia.com leading up to the launch, and will be making a formal announcement once his start date is official.

So, on behalf of those who care, and even some who don’t, thanks to Mike for five solid years of NY Baseball Digest, and good luck with the new opportunity.

 

Comments

  1. Raul says:

    Congratulations to Mr. Silva on the next stage of his journey.

    NYBD was a quality website with insightful and candid articles and discussions.
    I wish him continued success.

  2. John B says:

    Speaking of Dugout Central, it’s back up if anyone would like to post. Turns out it was just an interface thing with out host site (Dannay) and had nothing to do with Adam’s mystery status.

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Manny Banuelos Best Option to Replace Mariano

Manny Banuelos Best Option to Replace Mariano

With the sudden end to Mariano Rivera’s season this past week, and quite possibly to his career as well, the Yankees find themselves with the unenviable task of having to find a long term replacement sooner rather than later. 

The forty-two year old Rivera, baseball’s all-time saves leader and a likely first ballot Hall of Famer, tore the ACL and meniscus in his right knee shagging fly balls during batting practice before the Yankees game with Kansas City. And while there was some second guessing going on after the fact, the truth is Rivera (and many other pitchers) have done this as part of their pre-game routines for most of their careers. Rivera, in fact, was an outfielder during his youth in Panama and only switched to pitching because he lacked one fundamental tool necessary to play professional baseball. 

He couldn’t hit a lick. But ask anyone close to the Yankees, Rivera very well may be the best defensive outfielder in the organization, and has been for quite awhile. 

Many have speculated this would be his last season in the major leagues; a formal announcement was planned sometime around the All-Star break, although Rivera has said since the injury he will attempt a comeback and plans on playing in 2013.

The Yankees have stated they will not look outside the organization for a replacement, instead they will finish out the season with a Rafael Soriano/David Robertson tandem, although don’t be surprised if this is just an experiment and a permanent selection is made as the season progresses.

As far as any potential free agents for next year, well, Rivera is one, so if the Yanks decide to go that route, there is only one logical choice. Which, when you look at the list of potential relievers/closers available for 2013, may still be their best option.

Personally, I think there is no shortage of potential candidates within the organization right now. The Yankees inability to draft and or develop quality major league arms on a consistent basis is a problem which will eventually come back and bite them on the butt. 

Since the Brian Cashman era began in February, 1998, the Yankees have drafted nine pitchers in the first round, with the two most productive being Mark Prior and Ian Kennedy.

Unfortunately for the Yankees, that productivity came while they both were wearing a different color uniform. The minor league system now is full of back of the rotation, long relief guys, or in the case of David Phelps now, a guy the Yanks can get a few quality starts out of while they wait for a better option.

Make no mistake, however, the best long term option to replace Mo is currently one of these back of the rotation starters, and it’s not Phelps or Adam Warren or Graham Stoneburner. It isn’t anyone currently in New York, either, whether it be any of Phil Hughes or Robertson or the injured Joba Chamberlain.

It’s Manny Banuelos.

For those who know me or have read my writings in the past, I’ve long been an advocate of Banuelos as Rivera’s heir apparent. His proven lack of durability as a starter, his inconsistent command and overrated repertoire have me convinced without doubt his future as a major league pitcher is as a reliever.

I have seen Banuelos pitch, mostly on MiLB feeds, and combined with scouting reports, what the “eye test” was telling me didn’t jive with the general feeling he was a top pitching prospect, and not just in the Yankees’ system.

Those feelings were justified when I had the opportunity to see “ManBan” pitch live during his 2010 Arizona Fall League assignment. He pitched pretty well considering the league’s propensity for offense and being just nineteen years old, but as I watched I could almost see the scouting reports come alive. 

This is a player who, despite his age, is in his fifth season in the system, during which he’s averaged less than five innings per start, justifying those scouting reports which point to things like “durability”, “lack of physical strength” and “stamina” as potential long term red flags for him.

Banuelos is on the small side, but so to was another Yankee left hander of years gone by, Ron Guidry. A bit bigger than Manny, Guidry, too, was held back by an administration who didn’t believe a 5’11″ 170 pounder could pitch every five days at the major league level.  

Unlike Banuelos, Guidry was a college draftee, who made his pro debut at age 21, and like Banuelos spent five years in the minors before making the Yankees’ rotation full time at the age of 26. 

Throwing out the strength and stamina issues for a minute, unlike Guidry, Banuelos lacks a true “out” pitch. Guidry threw harder and had one of the best sliders of all-time, a pitch he could throw in any count and in any situation. 

What I saw in the AFL was an overrated repertoire, an inconsistent fastball which had neither the movement or velocity I had expected to see, a curve with little downward break and which moved more like a flat slider or a cutter, and, most disappointing to me, a “plus” change up he had little command of and even tipped on occasion. 

Throwing all those “ingredients” into a blender, I believe Banuelos’ inability to pitch deep into games and his lack of a “swing and miss” pitch makes him more suited to close games. 

Through history, a closer with more than one quality pitch have been rare; Mo’s cutter, Eckersley’s slider, Hoffman’s change-up. Even going back to their beginnings, you had Hoyt Wilhelm‘s knuckle ball and Roy Face‘s splitter or fork ball. Having a go-to out pitch and a decent “show-me” offering are all a closer needs to get through three outs or fifteen pitches a couple of times a week.

With three decent pitches and not having to worry about pitch counts, Banuelos is ahead of the curve when looking at the qualifications needed to be a dominant, long term option for the role. 

I think it’s awesome Rivera wants to try a comeback, and to go out on his own terms, but at age 43 and coming off major knee surgery I think the Yankees should be guarded in their optimism. 

There’s an unwritten rule in the game which says a player can’t lose his job due to injury, but this isn’t a 25 year old coming off a pulled hamstring, and, quite frankly, Rivera’s job may be the most easily replaceable in sports. 

If he comes to spring training next year and is the best “closer” in camp, then great, he wins. 

But I think the Yankees would be foolish to not have his replacement already available, the time for that is now, before the need arises.

Time for the Sandman to exit, and for Manny Banuelos to enter. 

Comments

  1. Raul says:

    I think you’re right.

    Banuelos probably is a nice option to replace Mariano Rivera. I just think that the Yankees don’t want to tell the league that their best pitching prospect is little more than a reliever.

    After all, they did manage to convince at least 1 team that Jesus Montero was an elite prospect.

    • Chuck says:

      Haha..yeah, really pulled a fast one on ol’ Jack, huh?

      And remember, he was willing to give us Cliff freakin’ Lee for him.

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Beckham Suspended, Rays Future in Doubt?

Beckham Suspended, Rays Future in Doubt?

In case you missed the news, Tim Beckham of the Tampa Bay Rays was suspended for 50 games yesterday under the conditions of the Minor League Substance Abuse Policy. Failing his second test for what was called “a drug of choice, and not a PED”, Beckham may have unintentionally started the clock counting down to the end of his Rays career.
 
The first overall pick in the 2008 draft, Beckham has struggled, both offensively and defensively, from the get-go. Playing for Triple A Durham, Beckham was hitting .204 through thirteen games, while committing four errors at shortstop. 
 
Heading into the draft, Beckham was considered the top prep prospect available, ahead of such names as Eric Hosmer and Kyle Shipworth. While not initially on the Rays’ radar, as a middle infielder he was certainly a name that had been tossed around as the draft approached. 
 
Beckham did struggle his last year of high school, and with the Rays preferring college players as a rule, turned their attention to Florida State catcher Buster Posey and Vanderbilt third baseman Pedro Alvarez
 
The problem was both players were demanding major league contracts, which was against a Rays self-imposed team policy. Not giving up easily, the Rays were in conversation with Posey’s representatives as late as the evening before the draft, but neither player would budge.
 
So, the Rays ended up “settling” for Beckham.
 
But what does this mean for him now?
 
Under the drug policy, a first offense is neither publicized or punishable, so this is Beckham’s second offense. But if you look at their history, the Rays have a short rope when it comes to off-field issues with players. 
 
Delmon Young. Matt Garza. Dioner Navarro. Elijah Dukes. Dewon Brazelton. The legendary Toe Nash. One could even add Josh Hamilton to the list. All have had their own battles, either with drugs or with each other, and all have eventually found themselves wearing a different color uniform.
 
The shine wore off Beckham’s star pretty quickly, to the point where most of the prospect prognosticators now think Beckham will be a major league utility man at best. 
 
Don’t be surprised if he’s wearing somebody else’s colors a year from now.

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